Armenia travel info
Armenia- Nagorno K.: 6
days, March08
INTRO ARMENIA
Kind of travel: Me and a girl
in an independent travel
When: 19th-
26th, March08
Do I need
a visa?: yes, I
got it at the airport in 10 min (30 euro for 120 days!!)
How I moved:
marshrutka (minibus) or shared taxis are the best bet to get almost everywhere
while bargaining for a private taxi sometimes is the only solution; forget
the train.
Freezing or
baking?: as for the weather march is always a gamble, but despite
some rain, we got wonderful sunny warm days (20 C). Don't underrate the
wind when packing.
Where I slept:
there's no lack of B&Bs and old soviet hotels ranging from 15 to30
euro. Even in central hotels don't take hot water always for granted and
feel free to negotiate.
What I liked:
I loved the snowy mountainy landscapes and the frozen Sevan lake.
I experienced zero hassles from militaries, and got charmed by the armenian
kindness in being photographed, but the best was the cheap Kotaika beeeeeer!!!!
:-)
What I disliked:
I didn't expect such abandonment spread everywhere together with plenty
of rubbish. Finding an open restaurant several times became a challenge.
How much daily:
if you are used to Russia, Armenia is less costy, but you need still 30
euro per person travelling in a couple, though. Hiring a car can be the
main expense, even if relatively cheap. Visa at airport is 30 euro.
Dangers/
hassles: three main dangers.
Smashing against another car at the formula one speed of Armenian drivers,
being knocked down while daring to cross the road on the zebra and, the
last but not the least, falling
into one of the many
deep huge sewers left opened
What
to have: even some basic knowledge of Russian will help a lot;
don't forget a handy dictionary.
THE
TRAVEL IN ARMENIA
Landed in Yerevan in the heat of the night, we were welcomed by the attempted
of being cheated getting the visa (read
the story); I thought we'd have spent the whole travel struggling
against dodgeys, but on the contrary this turned out to be the only episode.
At 8.30 am we were already on a marshrutka (minibus) heading to Stepanakert.
It's the capital of Nagorno Karabakh, a republic populated by Armenians
in the territory of Azerbabaijan, that claims official independency or
the annexion to Armenia. It took almost 8h (10 euro each), but both the
scenery of the snowed Vorotan Pass was amazing, and we had no issue at
the border despite not having the Nagorno visa.
[Travelling in
Nagorno]
The third day we reentered Armenia reaching the town of Goris by a shared
taxi from Stepanakert (2h, 4 euro/each). After having settled down in
a cute B&B (Khachik B&B, 22 euro the whole house for us), we hired
a taxi for a trip to the monastery of Tatev (14 euro for the car, 3h).
The Vorotan canyon makes the trip absolutely worthwhile, but frankly from
the monastery itself I had higher expectations.
From Goris combining shared taxi and marshrutka we got to Vanadzor in
6h.
The following day by one of those stylish rusty yellow buses we reached
Alaverdi driving along the Deben canyon, that from my point of view is
the nicest place I've seen in the country. In Alaverdi by the funicular
used by the employers of the cave, we visited the monastery of Sanahin
and the hiring a taxi the Haghpat one; both of them should not be missed!
Our last day we came back to Yerevan by marshrutka (2h), settling down
in a private house (22 euro for a double) and we had a quick trip to the
frozen Sevan lake; try a guess how we got there?? By marshrutka, of course!!
: Here we hired a taxi to visit the monastery of Sevanavank (1h, 4euro
for the car) enjoying the great view from the top of the peninsula.
The following morning at 4.00 am we go to the airport to fly back home
Alby
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IMPRESSIONS ABOUT ARMENIA
Two could be the keywords for Armenia: marshrutkas and monasteries.
The formers are the very mean of transport of the country, while the latter
are its highlight. However, what I found even more striking than them,
it's the Armenian post- URSS situation. In fact I didn't expected to find
the country in a status of abandonment to such extent of becoming melancholic.
Left out the capital Yerevan, the rest seems to have known an old glory
now completely disappeared and, at the end, this status really characterized
the country.
It must be said that all this abandonment is plunged in an amazing scenery
of mountains and hills: in particular the prize goes to the snowed Vorotan
pass, the narrow Deben canyon and the frozen Sevan lake.
From my point of view for any traveler Armenia is a must, but you know,
I'm too interested in this part of the word to be objective :-)
Alby
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Armenia travel stories
EVENTFUL NIGHT ARRIVAL IN YEREVAN
We landed at 4 am in the middle of the night at Yerevan
international airport.
I was particularly dizzy after the whole day working and the whole night
travelling with a stopover in Munich.
Just entered in the airport I immediately saw the visa counter and, without
any hesitation, I rushed there. Then I noticed the a sign claiming:
"Visa must be paid only in local currency: 15.000 dram"
Before leaving home I did my homework checking the change rate and asking
for the visa cost. I knew visa should cost around 30 euro and 15.000dram
sounded more or less that amount.
I asked to the guy of the counter for a visa and he wanted 90 euro for
2 visa!
Stupid me not investigating better and, after mumbling few seconds, I
took it.
Once I turned back I saw the change office 50 meters further and I saw
that 15.000 dram were something like 30 euro. My travelmate asked to a
airport staff girl about the real price and she confirmed the 15.000 dram=
30 euro cost: so we got scammed!!
Helped by this small but intrepid girl we walked back to the dodgey guy.
Initially he denied, but finally he gave up paying back the difference.
The staff girl proposed to report it to the police, but we weren't on
the mood; we declined and headed to pick our rug-sacks. While I was sitting
waiting for them in the almost empty airport, the dodgey man came. He
was worried we could report the fact to the police, so speaking in Russian
he started telling about his wife, children, food, few money
He kept on asking if I was going to speak to the police; I hit back I
didn't know yet and he shouldn't annoy me, then finally he left.
Once outside the airport the small brave girl came and insisted we reported
the fact. However seeing we weren't convinced, asked for our name, wrote
them and went.
It was still dark outside and we were lingering sat in a bar; frankly
I felt quite vulnerable for any revenge of the dodgey :
Our plan was to get a minibus to reach the Nagorno Karabakh by the day,
but generally speaking bus stations aren't the best place to settle down
waiting for the dawn.
The last plane landed and we got the feeling the airport was shouting
down, hence, when a taxi driver came offering a lift with other two people,
we accepted.
Funny the fact he was worried leaving us in the darkness of the bus station
and, without any extra charge, proposed to keep us on the taxi till the
end of the run.
The other two passengers were a man and a woman: they said they went to
the airport to pick up somebody who at the end didn't pop up (boh??)
Just to make the atmosphere even more surreal, being the last day of the
declared emergency state, soldiers (and a tank!) were guarding the town.
The taxi reached an abandoned-like quarters in the outskirt, it stopped
and dropped the woman off alone, while the man somewhere further.
No more passengers on the car so the driver took us at the bus station.
The place was quite desert (and dark), we set under a lit bulb of a closed
kiosk and started waiting for the dawn
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Alby
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VISA
You can get the visa once landed at the Yerevan
airport; 30 euro (15.000 DRAM), painlessly in 10 minutes, but
watch out cheating happened to me (read
the funny story)
MONEY
The Armenian local currency is
the one used in Nagorno, the change ratio at the time of the
travel (Dec07) was:
1 USD= 307 DRAM. (buying DRAM)
1 EURO= 458 DRAM (buying DRAM)
You can change money almost everywhere
and you can pay bigger amounts (i.e. accommodation) directly
in euro, but you risk to loose money with the change ratio
GENERAL
TIPS
Russian language helps
Dont' underrate how it could help to have even a basic knowledge
of Russian, in particular to know the numbers will tunred out
extremely useful in negotiations. English won't support you
that much.
At the hotel
Don't take for granted the hot water; ask both if there's
and if it's 24h. It can happen they turn on only when you require
and it's quite annoying
Early dinner
Finding an open restaurant after 21.00 can be quite tough, so
move on earlier unless you want to experience the risk of skipping
the dinner
Motion sickness
If you suffer motion sickness, the twisting mountainy roads
and the high speed of Armenian drivers wont' help. Bring you
pills!
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Nagorno travel info
Armenia- Nagorno K.: 6
days, March08
WHAT'S NAGORNO ?
Nagorno-Karabakh is a region
in the South Caucasus inhabitated by an Armenian enclave. It encompasses
the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, a de facto independent republic, and
is geographically part of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Nagorno is fully
supported by Armeni,. but it's not officialy part of the country,
despite they claim it. Nowadays it's a disputed area. |
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Nagorno map, click on to
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INTRO NAGORNO
Kind
of travel: Me and a girl in an independent travel
When: 19th-
26th, March08
Do I need
a visa?: yes, we
got it in Stepanakert in 20min for 21 euro valid 5 days (read here details)
How I moved:
marshrutka (minibus) or shared taxis are the best bet to get almost everywhere
while bargaining for a private taxi sometimes is the only solution.
Freezing or
baking?: as for the weather March is always a gamble, but despite
some rain, we got nice sunny warm days (20 C). Don't underrate the wind
when packing.
Where I slept:
Stepanakert is not plenty of accommodations, or better, we found just
an anonimum hotel ( a double for 40euro w/o breakfast and barganing)!!!
I guess, asking around, you can spot some private rooms, but, unless you
don't speak Russian, it won't be like drinking a cup of tea
What I liked:
We experienced zero hassles from militaries, Shushi is quite
impressive and the Lada/ Zigulì cars everywhere make the atmosphere
in Nagorno quite movie like. Don't miss the funny girls in Stepanakert,
all dressed as parading :-)
What I disliked:
I didn't expect such abandonment spread everywhere and finding an open
restaurant in Stepanakert became a challenge.
How much daily:
it's more expensive than Armenia: consider 35 euro per person travelling
in a couple (hotel 20, food 7, transp 8 + extra). Hiring a car can be
the main expense, even if relatively cheap.
Dangers/ hassles:
Nagorno is one of the most mined areas on the earth, but, you will be
far more likely to get knock down trying to cross the road on the zebra
in Stepanakert than blowing on an UXO.
What to have:
even some basic knowledge of Russian will help a lot; don't forget
a handy dictionary.
THE
TRAVEL IN NAGORNO
[Coming
from Armenia]
At 8.30 am we were already on a marshrutka (minibus) heading to Stepanakert.
It's the capital of Nagorno Karabakh, a republic populated by Armenians
in the territory of Azerbabaijan, that claims official independency or
the annexion to Armenia. It took almost 8h (10 euro each), but both the
scenery of the snowed Vorotan Pass was amazing, and we had no issue at
the border despite not having the Nagorno visa. In Stepanakert no big
choice in term of accommodation, so we opted for the costy and anonymous
Nairi Hotel (a double for 40 euro, even bargaining!!!).
The following day at first we went to the Foreign Affairs Office from
where, with 21 euro less for each, we were going out with the Nagorno
visa stuck on our passports (read
the details). Then after a funny negotiation at the bus station, we
hired a taxi for a trip to the monastery of Gandzasar (16 euro for the
car, 2.5h): nice scenery, very nice monastery and not a single check point
met on the way.
While on the afternoon we got a marshrutka to the impressive ex Azeri
town of Shushi, 9km from Stepanakert.
The third day we reentered Armenia reaching the town of Goris by a shared
taxi from Stepanakert (2h, 4 euro/each)
[Reentering in Armenia]
Alby
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IMPRESSIONS ABOUT NAGORNO
Till ten years ago Nagorno was one of the protagonist of
the news, now everybody has forgotten this small piece of land who claims
the autonomy while disputed between Azerbaijan and Armenia.
However Nagorno is still there
The capital Stepanakert with its old Lada/ Zigulì cars, the girls
dressed like parading, the clothes hung in the sky, the soldiers doing
everything except the militaries
it's quite a movie set.
Shushi: I found quite impressive this kind of 'post-apocalyptic like'
place seemed inhabited by just few survivors. In fact now the town is
more a bunch of rubbles and abandoned buildings characterized by two ruined
mosques with their towering minarets still dominating the landscape.
The Gandzasar monastery is nice, but it cannot be the reason for a trip
to Nagorno.
I know your question: is it worth going to Nagorno?
If you don't go there thinking to see touristy highlights, but to experience
what's the situation of a disputed country, that from Islamic got fully
Catholic, connected to the rest of the world by just a road, YES go there!
However if you are still wondering if it's the case, it means you haven't
the right point of view you need to appreciate, so skip it.
Alby
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Nagorno travel tip
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UXO (mines)
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Agdam
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Russian language helps
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Early dinner
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Motion sickness
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VISA
You can get the Nagorno visa in Yerevan or directly
in Stepanakert (tha capitla of nagorno) as I did.
For the former option from a post lioninzion
on the LP TT (Sep-2007) :
'The NKR embassy in Yerevan is at 17A Zaryan
Poghots (Street), in the upper suburb of Arabkir, about a 5-10
minute walk from the top of the Cascade. Or you can take the
Metro to Barekamutyun Station and take a minivan up Komitas
Poghota, get off at the top of the hill (in front of the exceedingly
Soviet old Academy of Sciences complex) and the embassy is about
a 2 minute walk from there. There are great views over central
Yerevan to Mt Ararat from this part of the city too.
A 7-day visa costs $21, plus an extra fee if you want it on
the same day. In which case you drop off your passprt and fill
out forms in the morning, and collect passport with visa in
the afternoon.
The dram is the currency of NKR.'
Instead, as most do, if you prefer to get it directly in situ,
from Yerevan Kilikya Avtokayan (northern bus station) take the
marshrutka (minibus) to Stepanakert (8h, 10 euro). When I crossed
the border the minibus stopped at the check point, but nobody
asked me anything (not even to show the passport, but I guess
I was just lucky).
Anyway , even in case they question you, tell them you will
get the visa in the capital, because at the embassy in Yerevan
they told you this is the procedure.
The day after I went to the Foreign Affairs Office in Stepanakert
on Azatamartikneri Poghota (Avenue), the main street between
the bus station and the square at the city centre (from the
bus station on the left just before the bridge). I got the visa
valid 5 days for 11.000 dram (21 euro) in 30min. The woman wrote
a document listining the place we were supposed to be:
Stepanakert, Shushi and Gandzsar monastery.
On the way to Gandzasar (by taxi 8.000 dram) we didn't meet
a single check point and as well for Shushi. Only when exiting
the Nagorno at the check point we were asked to show the visa
and the paper.
The soldier checked it carefully and kept the paper.
MONEY
The Armenian local currency is the one used in
Nagorno, the change ratio at the time of the travel (Dec07)
was:
1 USD= 307 DRAM. (buying DRAM)
1 EURO= 458 DRAM (buying DRAM)
You can change money almost everywhere and you
can pay bigger amounts (i.e. accommodation) directly in euro,
but you risk to loose money with the change ratio
GENERAL
TIPS
UXO (mines)
I'm sure you alredy know Nagorno is one of the most mined
areas onthe world. In my opinion for a backpacker this is the
minor danger you can encounter, unless you don't want to wander
in the fields off of the paths around the eastern frontline.
Agdam
I wasn't there, because I think just Shushi itself is enough
to satisfy you post-war town curiosity. Anyway if you are not
the case, have a read here
for some info (post from LP TT Apr-2007 by: Chirol)
Russian language helps
Dont' underrate how it could help to have even a basic knowledge
of Russian, in particular to know the numbers will tunred out
extremely useful in negotiations. English won't support you
that much.
Early dinner
Finding an open restaurant after 21.00 can be quite tough, so
move on earlier unless you want to experience the risk of skipping
the dinner
Motion sickness
If you suffer motion sickness, the twisting mountainy roads
and the high speed of Armenian drivers wont' help. Bring you
pills!
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